What say you about evolution and creation.

pianoman49 · 08-19-2008, 10:52 PM

I was mildly surprised not to find a thread like this already in this section, so if there is one please direct me to it...

We all know the long standing debate between creationists and evolutionists.

typically, the devout christians believe in the whole seven days deal. adam and eve. garden of eden. six thousand years ago, no more.

and then here come the scientists:
well, the earth is billions of years old. we came from the primordial soup. to the monkeys, then came cave men, then came humans, and then came the teenager at the laptop ( yes i skipped a few, deal with it).

so what do you think? is the world only six thousand years old, or did we come from monkeys? both ideas sound pretty absurd to me. but I'll put in my two cents later. I want to hear what youz guyz think first:

Peter Parka · 08-19-2008, 11:06 PM

God! Been loads of debates about this! No doubt this one will go on forever too!

skyblue · 08-20-2008, 07:14 AM

i go with the scientific view...if it was adam and eve an awful lot of incest must have happened

Minor Axis · 08-20-2008, 09:35 AM

I was trying to remember that thread where all the evolution videos were posted. This thread maybe a good one to peruse:

http://www.offtopicz.com/24366-prove...nism-real.html

thatguyjeff · 08-20-2008, 11:20 AM

Evolution... by design.

Minor Axis · 08-20-2008, 11:42 AM

No it's evolution... by chance.

GraceAbounds · 08-20-2008, 06:07 PM

God knows how it was and and how it is still going down. We are blessed to be His creation and to be able to explore and study His handy work all around us. As to the specific details, I don't know, but studying and speculating sure is fun and mind expanding.

Minor Axis · 08-20-2008, 10:16 PM

Or be amazed at the wonder of nature without attributing it to any particular intelligent entity that we are not sure about.

Chieftan · 08-21-2008, 03:06 AM

And debates and forums like this will always go on because God doesnt exist. God does not come down to prove to anyone that he exist.

People see things in the world to believe God.

I see things in the world to disprove God, like pain and suffering.

Dont try to counter this comment by a book wrote by a man. All religions create god the same way, by saying god inspired them, and then writing a book.

Minor Axis · 08-21-2008, 09:31 AM

People see the world, their existence, and try to understand and because our existence is beyond our understanding, God is one of the popular, easy to understand conclusions. Here is the shocker, if the term "God" simply represents the answer, I can go with that as I do think there is something going on in a spiritual realm. But it's a completely vague answer as we just don't know. Sure everyone feels this, or feels that, but what is that exactly- good feelings? I take issue with all of the undocumented particulars people promote as fact when really it's faith they are promoting.

CMDxAbsolution · 08-21-2008, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieftan

And debates and forums like this will always go on because God doesnt exist. God does not come down to prove to anyone that he exist.

People see things in the world to believe God.

I see things in the world to disprove God, like pain and suffering.

Dont try to counter this comment by a book wrote by a man. All religions create god the same way, by saying god inspired them, and then writing a book.

This.

Evolution is really the one true logical way.

Minor Axis · 08-22-2008, 05:32 PM

I was listening to an expert today on NPR who was saying that trophy hunting of endangered species is a very bad practice because of the impact on the gene pool. What I thought was really interesting is when he said, "today you don't see the tuskers ( refering to elephants) you saw 100 years ago. The trophy lions manes (lions and manes) are not a big as they were 100 years ago."

He was implying that by taking the biggest and the best of a species out of circulation, you've altered the gene pool in a negative way. This could be considered a form of un-intelligent haphazard design as carried out by man on his fellow creatures.

teh_fuzz · 08-22-2008, 06:31 PM

first there was corn
then there were tortillas
jobs
better money
dollar$

...if you make them they will come
then came the mexican

So let me be the first to say I love you all my children... 'cept for the anti-semite dude.
hes like the ugly duckling of otz

ok ok seriously:
Evolution.

gLing · 08-22-2008, 06:59 PM

We are the lost 13th colony of the lords of kobol...

pianoman49 · 08-25-2008, 02:24 PM

see here's the thing.
this isn't really evolution, but it follows the same train of thought.

the big bang.
if you believe in god, you have your explaination right there. god did it. but if you believe strictly in the science of it, where did it come from? there was nothing, and then all of a sudden, everything exploded in a pinpoint and expanded to eventually form our universe?
right.

08-19-2008, 10:52 PM	#1
pianoman49 Member In the Making Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hell on Earth Posts: 126 Tokenz: 1,974	What say you about evolution and creation. I was mildly surprised not to find a thread like this already in this section, so if there is one please direct me to it... We all know the long standing debate between creationists and evolutionists. typically, the devout christians believe in the whole seven days deal. adam and eve. garden of eden. six thousand years ago, no more. and then here come the scientists: well, the earth is billions of years old. we came from the primordial soup. to the monkeys, then came cave men, then came humans, and then came the teenager at the laptop ( yes i skipped a few, deal with it). so what do you think? is the world only six thousand years old, or did we come from monkeys? both ideas sound pretty absurd to me. but I'll put in my two cents later. I want to hear what youz guyz think first: __________________ I need a neato signature. any suggestions?

08-19-2008, 11:06 PM	#2
Peter Parka King Of Cunts Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Harlow, Essex, England Posts: 23,362 Tokenz: 112,762	Re: What say you about evolution and creation. God! Been loads of debates about this! No doubt this one will go on forever too! __________________

08-20-2008, 07:14 AM	#3
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08-20-2008, 09:35 AM	#4
Minor Axis Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Between Canada and Mexico Posts: 1,659 Tokenz: 28,167	Re: What say you about evolution and creation. I was trying to remember that thread where all the evolution videos were posted. This thread maybe a good one to peruse: http://www.offtopicz.com/24366-prove...nism-real.html __________________ "I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of Men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the Age of Men comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!" Last edited by Minor Axis; 08-20-2008 at 09:36 AM.

08-20-2008, 11:20 AM	#5
thatguyjeff Still a newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 77 Tokenz: 1,923	Re: What say you about evolution and creation. Evolution... by design.

08-20-2008, 11:42 AM	#6
Minor Axis Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Between Canada and Mexico Posts: 1,659 Tokenz: 28,167	Re: What say you about evolution and creation. No it's evolution... by chance. __________________ "I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of Men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the Age of Men comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!"

08-20-2008, 06:07 PM	#7
GraceAbounds V.I.P User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,324 Tokenz: 1,861	Re: What say you about evolution and creation. God knows how it was and and how it is still going down. We are blessed to be His creation and to be able to explore and study His handy work all around us. As to the specific details, I don't know, but studying and speculating sure is fun and mind expanding. __________________ "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

08-20-2008, 10:16 PM	#8
Minor Axis Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Between Canada and Mexico Posts: 1,659 Tokenz: 28,167	Re: What say you about evolution and creation. Or be amazed at the wonder of nature without attributing it to any particular intelligent entity that we are not sure about. __________________ "I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of Men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the Age of Men comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!"

08-21-2008, 03:06 AM	#9
Chieftan Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 96 Tokenz: 1,557	Re: What say you about evolution and creation. And debates and forums like this will always go on because God doesnt exist. God does not come down to prove to anyone that he exist. People see things in the world to believe God. I see things in the world to disprove God, like pain and suffering. Dont try to counter this comment by a book wrote by a man. All religions create god the same way, by saying god inspired them, and then writing a book.

08-21-2008, 09:31 AM	#10
Minor Axis Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Between Canada and Mexico Posts: 1,659 Tokenz: 28,167	Re: What say you about evolution and creation. People see the world, their existence, and try to understand and because our existence is beyond our understanding, God is one of the popular, easy to understand conclusions. Here is the shocker, if the term "God" simply represents the answer, I can go with that as I do think there is something going on in a spiritual realm. But it's a completely vague answer as we just don't know. Sure everyone feels this, or feels that, but what is that exactly- good feelings? I take issue with all of the undocumented particulars people promote as fact when really it's faith they are promoting. __________________ "I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of Men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the Age of Men comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!" Last edited by Minor Axis; 08-21-2008 at 09:32 AM.

08-22-2008, 05:32 PM	#12
Minor Axis Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Between Canada and Mexico Posts: 1,659 Tokenz: 28,167	Re: What say you about evolution and creation. I was listening to an expert today on NPR who was saying that trophy hunting of endangered species is a very bad practice because of the impact on the gene pool. What I thought was really interesting is when he said, "today you don't see the tuskers ( refering to elephants) you saw 100 years ago. The trophy lions manes (lions and manes) are not a big as they were 100 years ago." He was implying that by taking the biggest and the best of a species out of circulation, you've altered the gene pool in a negative way. This could be considered a form of un-intelligent haphazard design as carried out by man on his fellow creatures. __________________ "I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of Men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the Age of Men comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!" Last edited by Minor Axis; 08-22-2008 at 07:37 PM.

08-22-2008, 06:31 PM	#13
teh_fuzz Want a mushroom stamp??? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,833 Tokenz: 35,103	Re: What say you about evolution and creation. first there was corn then there were tortillas jobs better money dollar$ ...if you make them they will come then came the mexican So let me be the first to say I love you all my children... 'cept for the anti-semite dude. hes like the ugly duckling of otz ok ok seriously: Evolution. __________________ FoxMulder In Disguise

08-22-2008, 06:59 PM	#14
gLing The Bionic Hobbit! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,158 Tokenz: 7,709	Re: What say you about evolution and creation. We are the lost 13th colony of the lords of kobol... __________________

08-25-2008, 02:24 PM	#15
pianoman49 Member In the Making Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hell on Earth Posts: 126 Tokenz: 1,974	Re: What say you about evolution and creation. see here's the thing. this isn't really evolution, but it follows the same train of thought. the big bang. if you believe in god, you have your explaination right there. god did it. but if you believe strictly in the science of it, where did it come from? there was nothing, and then all of a sudden, everything exploded in a pinpoint and expanded to eventually form our universe? right. __________________ I need a neato signature. any suggestions?

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