dazner

I decided to post something here too...

I was Catholic before I saw the real light..

What does everyone think of Catholics?

__________________
Wanna Get Away?



I'm a Rapper, Father and Husband
which means a Poet, Leader and ATM

c_squared

what do you have against catholics i am catholic i have always been a catholic. i never say anything bad about other peoples choice of religion. what religion are you?

__________________

dazner

I'm not saying anything bad about catholics at all in no way.

What i'm saying is I was raised catholic by my mom but my dads always been lutheran.

I know it's all just Christianity but I was asking opinions on this particular religion because I was thinking which I should raise my son in.

And if so I wanted to Baptise him asap.

__________________
Wanna Get Away?



I'm a Rapper, Father and Husband
which means a Poet, Leader and ATM

c_squared

i was not angry about what you said . i have no problems with you at all i was just asking a question. i hope you are not upset about it i am not here to fight with anyone.

__________________

Breath

This sentence right here shows a bit of bad feelings toward Catholicism.
If you were raised with Catholic and Lutheran influence, then you know that both faiths are similar.
I am Catholic and I will remain Catholic. I don't experience any "light" though.

BadBoy@TheWheel

Lutheran is "Catholic light"

Less calories.

Essentially I have no issue with practicing Catholics, I have really epic issues with the foundation of Catholocism.

But again, nothing at all against the followers.

__________________

Minor Axis

Catholicism is a religion like many others. I don't feel the followers of the Catholic Religion are any more misguided than any other religion and the moral code is acceptable. It's just a shame the moral code is not followed by church leadership.

I have a substantial gripe with the leadership of the Catholic Church because 1) I believe any church who becomes wealthy by teaching the Lord's word is by definition corrupt and 2) the Priest scandal and how the church bureaucracy handled it, shuttling priests from victimized communities to waiting-to-be-victimized communities is worthy of burning in hell. It was a typical large bureaucratic response- protect the organization and to hell with the victims. Consequently I would avoid the American Catholic Church as long as it is allied with Rome, but that is just an opinion. I'd stick with Lutheran.

__________________
"I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of Men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the Age of Men comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!"

Mystic

this is one area that I'll leave for Valley to hopefully come along and say what she does about the catholic faith as I agree with her on this one.

__________________

Breath

I can certainly understand this sentiment. I would like to remind you that while you would expect leaders to follow the "rules" of faith and society, the leaders are, in-fact, human and are therefore subject to temptation and sin, just like any other member of any other group in the world.
Given that fact, my comment is that if I tossed aside every facet of society that had misguided, corrupt or less-than-perfect leaders or members, I'd have to live in a cave in a remote area to escape.
The bottom line is I am not Catholic because of who the leaders are. I am Catholic because I believe the principles are correct. Catholicism has its roots in the early years of Jesus, when the first pope was commissioned. I believe I can't go wrong with 2000+ years of history.

Minor Axis

I understand the influence of being raised in a religion and the impact it has on you. You probably feel like you are surrounded by good people in your church and I'm sure you are. Ultimately the most important part of the church is in the community.

So I'm not trying to pick a fight but it might seem so when I say the Catholic Church has 2000+ years of dubious history when it comes to controlling people, maneuvering for financial gain, and maintaining political & economic power over the people they can influence. You are right, they are just people, like everyone else, but historically the Catholic Church is a particularly poor example of what church and religion should be all about. Are there other bad examples? I imagine so, but I'm no religious historical expert and my answer is framed based on what I've been exposed to in these United States.

However, despite this feeling I'd pick Catholic over fundamentalist Middle-Eastern Muslim in a heart beat. FYI, I was raised Presbyterian, but at some point started leaning Agnostic in my beliefs. My wife is a non-practicing Catholic.

__________________
"I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of Men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the Age of Men comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!"

Breath

@ Minor Axis
There's a saying that goes, "Don't do what I do, do what I say". (Or something like that.)
I'd like to re-emphasize that the beliefs and fundamentals and doctrine are the most important part of the Church (and not the community, as you have stated). Try to see past the 2000+ years of "dubious history" that you are aware of. Look for the 2000+ years of positive aspects which far outweigh the bad. As long as humanity is imperfect, any group can be made to look bad. A few bad apples, ya know.

c_squared

i agree with you breath

__________________

Zorak

"I'm not a facist, I'm a priest. Facists dress in black and go around telling people what to do. Where as priests..... Uhhh.... More drink!"

__________________
"...I will die alone, upside down, in a pub toilet."


Hey hey, My my, Rock and Roll can never die.

Minor Axis

Ironically it's the church leadership, those who set the rules, that has let Catholics down, not the local community. The church faithful will have to decide how much was too much. I would not be surprised if the Catholic Church in the U.S. eventually does not break ties with Rome. A relationship with God is not dependent on having an organization, that can't follow it's own rules telling you it (the organization) is necessary to mediate with God.

I wish you the best.

__________________
"I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of Men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the Age of Men comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!"

skyblue

catholics are people so i have no probs......ok ,over here they support glasgow celtic but i wont hold that against them

__________________
the after christmas prize fund.....jassillem26,250..skyblue25,000...mystic15 .000....vshayes26,250....wednesday40,000....wookie girl25,000....keight25,000....Natasha25,000....bad boy@thewheel20,000