Alien Allen

His words betray him. He has a socialistic agenda. Plain as day. You are so steeped in anti Republicanism that you just don't see it.

His foreign policy ideas reeks of inexperience
His domestic agenda will further bankrupt our country

We need change but he is just more of the same. Tax and spend.

Fox Mulder

You got Minor nailed.

Fox Mulder

You're talking about Obama obviously.

Fox Mulder

What are you talking about--the communist party is supporting and endorsing him for Godsakes. His mentor is an admitted communist--he supports unions, he's anti-business, he's anti-corporations, he's anti-capitalism, he's anti-American. Do you know ANYTHING about Obama outside of what your read on Moveon.org?

Go back and read the communist party goals and tell me what they support that Obama does not support.

Strauss

And do you have a point for pointing out the obvious?

You are left with judging a candidate for office by what she or he says and who they associate with. That leaves Mr. Obama in a world of hurt. However, he is now running toward the middle having secured the fringe liberal vote. You're voting for him aren't you?

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Alien Allen

The republicans had morphed into what the democrats were while in power for all those years. Power mongers. Now the dems have control of congress again and are up to the same BS. Surprised they reverted to form so quick.

anybody who votes for Obama is voting to give control of the govt to one party. Guess those voters did not learn anything the last few years.

both parties suck so bad it is sickening.

but then we get what the idiots empowered to vote ask for. Just look at Detroit if you want a clear example. Those fucking idiots south of 8 mile would probably re elect their mayor next year if he was not in jail. Which he likely will be.

Minor Axis

You pointed it out first but you focused on Obama.

Yes I am, and you?

I'd be open to ideas about a better system. The problem I see with politics is that once you've made a hard core values commitment to a Party, they can put up the biggest jackass in the world and you'll still vote for him. He'll make a huge mess, but you'll vote for the next nominee in that party because he'll be better. I realize this statement can be applied to any party... however, I'll vote for who I think is the best candidate having voted Republican, Democrat, and Independent in the past.

It's really not worth responding to your outlandish commentary. I'm convince that no matter who is nominated for Democratic President Nominee, that the right will be villianizing them. It's just how they work since the days of Newt.



Just signed off with the Olympics, the wife and I always enjoy it. Gotta love Womans Beach Volley Ball.

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All Else Failed

Socialism =/= Communism

Fox Mulder

Oh yeah--you and the Democrats would NEVER dream of villainizing the Republican Nominee!

You really do live in your own little delusional world, don't you?

America was built on capitalism, free enterprise and freedom in general (I guarantee you the Framers never dreamed of Federal Labor Unions extorting Americans in every state--they'd have drafted a provision specifically preventing it if they did) . Obama is a communist--he is the anti-American--he does not believe in captialism or free enterprise and he would take away every economic freedom that existed in the US today if he were permitted to do so.

As a supporter of the Constitution, I believe all freedoms should be protected, including economic freedoms which are guaranteed in the Constitution. Liberals would love to write those out of existence--and Obama would be first in line.

Minor Axis

The Republican Party perfected it and I'm happy to report Republican candidates have never been treated as poorly by the Democrats. "Swift Boating" is the perfect example, speaking of...


"Swift Boating" Mulder style. And you have the gull to accuse Democrats of mistreating your Republicans poorly? You people who have decided the end justifies the means have sold whatever souls you still have because you have no principles if you're willing to do or say anything to get the desired outcome. Your method is bankrupt. The only freedoms you apparently believe in are those that benefit your way of thinking.

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BadBoy@TheWheel

EMERGENCY PROGRAM TO REPAIR, RENEW AND REBUILD
We offer these proposals as a contribution toward the bold policy changes necessary to meet the immediate needs of working people, eliminate poverty and move our country forward with a new President and Congress. Funding to come from monies now being spent on the Iraq war, military budget and tax breaks to the super rich.
1. Immediate Relief
A moratorium on foreclosures and evictions. Reset mortgages so payments are affordable. No bail outs for banks.
Extend unemployment compensation, increase payments and eligibility. Increase food stamps, WIC, children’s health insurance, and low income energy assistance.
Assist deficit-ridden state and local governments so they can preserve services and jobs. Fund “ready-to-go” infrastructure projects.

2. A Peacetime, Green Jobs Economy for All
Enact massive public works job creation to make existing buildings energy efficient, construct new schools, hospitals, affordable housing, mass transit and bridges. Priority to areas hurt by loss of manufacturing, loss of family farms and highest unemployment areas including the Katrina-devastated Gulf Coast.
Major clean, affordable energy development project for solar, wind and biomass electricity generation. Immediate program to cut greenhouse gas emissions and for environmental cleanup. Restore Federal energy regulation and encourage public ownership of utilities.
Enact the Employee Free Choice Act to enable workers to form unions without intimidation and win higher wages and benefits, dignity and respect.
Enact HR 676 the US National Health Insurance Act to provide universal health insurance with single-payer financing. Fully fund public education from pre-school through higher education and technical training. No privatization of Social Security or Medicare. Expand and improve benefits.
3. Restore Civil Rights, the Bill of Rights and Separation of Powers
Restore Civil Rights Act enforcement, affirmative action in employment, education, and housing. End the “school to prison” pipeline. Outlaw hate crimes. Preserve Roe v. Wade.
Pass immigration reform with legalization, a path to citizenship, due process, no militarization of the borders, and no exploitative guest worker programs. No human being is illegal.
Repeal Patriot Act. Restore Habeas Corpus rights. No more torture. Investigate and prosecute Bush administration violations of the Constitution.
Expand voting rights. Enact publicly financed elections, same day registration, voting rights for ex-felons, verifiable voting equipment, and instant runoff voting. Restore Fairness Doctrine in media.
4. Strength through Peace Withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq with no bases or U.S. corporations left behind. Full care for returning veterans. No war on Iran or expansion of troops in Afghanistan. Assistance to Iraqi people to rebuild their country.
Adopt a new foreign policy of diplomacy and respect for all nations, instead of preemptive war for corporate interests. Renew commitment to UN peace role.
End trade policies that enrich corporations while destroying jobs. Ratify Kyoto Treaty and other climate change agreements.
Enforce nuclear non-proliferation, work to abolish nuclear weapons. Cut Pentagon spending in half, close down US bases around the world.


Vote November 4 as if your life, and your future, depend on it!
Defeating the right wing is the first step in the struggle to end exploitation, poverty, racism and war inherent in capitalism.
The Communist Party USA and Young Communist League participate in today’s movements confident that they set the stage for more fundamental change tomorrow.
Throughout our 88-year history we have defended the interests of the working class, fighting for unity and democratic rights. Today we are guided by our motto, “People and Nature Before Profits.” Our vision is a socialist USA, that opens the way for equality, world peace, real democracy, a society in which people control their own destinies in a sustainable world


So...Fox

You're all for toture and direct violation of Habeas Corpus rights? I though you were some bigshot laywer or something..

You are for profit before people?

You don't think we need to stop the exploitation of foriegn immigrants and come to some resolve about the border issue? (Becuase your buddy Johnny has FINALLY made his stand on that)

And by the way....Is YOUR buddy GW not already inacting a policy to alleviate mortgage issues to homeowners, which will inadvertenly keep the lending companies out of trouble financially? Sounds like they are doing the same thing, but since GW a republican.....It's not the same right?

I don't agree with all of those policies directly, but most of them are common sense, not communism.

If you ask me....We should start by putting all the lawyers in camps, that's about the only torture I'm okay with.

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Minor Axis

According to Mulder, supporting people is communism. Supporting Big Business is good business and oh, screw the worker for good measure!

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BadBoy@TheWheel

I have always felt like there needed to be a balance between the interest of the company, and the interest of the worker.

And that ideology has taken me quite far in my personal career path. I didn't know it was considered communist to support workers, and ensure stability for them.....

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Minor Axis

100% agreement, balance is the key.

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Zorak

lol @ the Birchite

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