lumpenstein

Logic and reason are not your strong points, are they? You think I am obliged to prove or disprove any wild imagination possible? Metaphysics is a joke. There is no known plane other than the phusical one we occupy and there is no evidence for the existance for the thing you call spirit. Define spirit. In the absense of any proof of the above there is no obligation on my part to accept any of it.The burden of proof is upon the one making the claim. I have made no claims but you have so prove away...

Alien Allen

I guess we can see who is not gonna be on Minors friends list

lumpenstein

I have no friends!

Fox Mulder

You are absolutely correct that the burden of proof is on the person making the claim. However, I do not believe Minor was maing a claim, he was simply stating existence on another plane should be considered and I would agree. There is no "proof" in the manner in which one would prove the existence of the dinosaur or the age of a star. However, it is certainly reasonable that there may be an existence in different planes. In fact, current scientific theory says there are other planes of existence (string theory for example). Is it not possible that scientifically (as oppossed to theories of a supreme being) that there can be existence in another plane or dimension?

Fox Mulder

Mulder concurs!!!

Minor Axis

Look in the mirror when you say that. I've not asked you to prove anything.

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nursey1972

I know that I would like to believe something wonderful happens after you die, but in all reality... I think it is just NOTHING...

Alien Allen

well at least he admits it

jassilem

LOL

Peter Parka

I believe in re-incarnation. When you die, you're re-incarnated as worm food.

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BadBoy@TheWheel

Now that's food for thought


That's what I'm coming back as....Food...Food for thought


Or Summers Eve Spring Splash feminine wash......So I can run through it one more time

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JulioO101193

NONE of us can answer that accurately.

Why? where not dead!

So we have no proof to prove or disprove any of the "theories"

The only certain thing is that there is this thing called pineal gland that releases a liquid when you're born, you're on DMT, your deaming, and when you die... but still that doesn't tell us much.


Its not like we can evade it so what the hell lets enjoy life.

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"This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality
Embrace this moment, remember: we are eternal, all this pain is an illusion"

"There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves"

"There is no coming to consciousness without pain"

Mase

I'll tell you what happens, once I've died.

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Minor Axis

Houdini was supposed to send back word, but he never did.

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"I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of Men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the Age of Men comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!"

Hans

I honestly do not have the balls to think NOTHING happens. Im not afraid of death in any aspect, I am going to die/so is everyone here. I also doubt my life will have any more impact other than the people I will talk to/touch, but to think NOTHING happens when we pass...even if I did believe that, Id force myself to accept some sort of hope. I also believe that whoever put us here, can put us there. Someone is pulling the strings on the puppets. I dont have a problem with recognizing this though.

As for judgement, Im still unsure. I think that there is going to be some sort of value of how you liev this life...but if its as simple as an up or down elevator, for many people it is easy. As a Catholic, the final sacrament are the Last Rites, during this you are absolved from Sin and any sin you may commit before you pass, but you must be actually regret doing them.

I believe in my own mind, if you understand what you do is wrong, if you TRY not to do them, if you dont take pleasure/stay in sin, you are good person. There is no logic why a good person should see a damned eternity.

To be honest those, those who think "nothing happens", talk to any old person. No mentally healthy person (unless in extreme pain or somethng) wants to "expire" to nothing/end existance. Most of us are not even 40, we have a "long" time left before we will PROBABLY die. However, when you all start to get to the end of the road, like the majority of atheist/people, you will fight kicking and screaming to have your one more day of existance. To think you are different from this, atleast in my eyes, makes you look naive. In short, Im willing to bet as you age to the point of death/grow as a person/live your life longer, youll see how special, fragile, wonderful, scary, and hard life is and can and will continue to be. If you can continue keeping your Atheistic ideas after all of that anyways, you are a very strong person. Much stronger than I will ever be metally.

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