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Old 08-04-2008, 03:12 PM   #1
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I was just curious if there are any Mormons here, and what people here think of Mormon beliefs in general.

I had some bad experiences with one individual who is a Mormon, someone who I never wish to speak to again. For personal reasons, I shall not discuss that here.

But nevertheless I am open to hearing what people have to say here
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I'm not a mormon but have had them at my house before. They seem like a nice bunch but I just don't believe what they do. The first time they came and learned I was deaf they didn't stay long. They came back two days later with somebody who knew sign language so we sat and talked for a while. By the time it was all over I had a free bible, a free book of mormons and a new salsa recipe.
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When I lived in orlando I was really close to 2 girls that were Mormons. They were wonderful. I really wish I would have kept in touch with them b/c they helped me through a lot of things.
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I've always heard how wonderful Mormons are. And I've watched the first two season of Big Love. But I've always been suspect of the origins of the Mormon Church and how it's been described. It's just in my nature.

For your review: Let Us Reason.link. I tend to view this as a cult. Am I being harsh?

And I pulled this from an ex-mormon site. Granted the source is biased:

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The church teaches good values and does so much good.

What good values does the church teach that almost everyone else on the planet doesn't?

What good does the church itself do? The amount of charitable giving it has done is a pittance compared to the money it rakes in. And most of the giving the church does is toward members of its own organization.

What harm has the church done? Lots. Here's a sample list by category:

1. Economic

a. The church demands that its members pay it ten percent of their income, whether they can afford it or not.

b. The church encourages couples to have more children (and sooner) than they normally would, again whether they can afford it or not.

c. The church mandates that its young men spend two years of their prime trying to convert new members, instead of going to school, building a career or even doing charitable work.

2. Psychological

a. The church teaches same-sex-oriented people that they inherently evil.

b. The church instills in its members the notion that they are never good enough, no matter what they do. This has led Utah to be the anti-depressant capital of the U.S.

c. The church teaches that repentance is a long, difficult or sometimes impossible process. Young people are taught that being sexual before marriage will ruin them permanently. Masturbation guilt is heaped upon vulnerable adolescents.

d. Magical thinking is lauded while critical thinking skills are suppressed. Members are taught thought control techniques to keep them from doubting their leaders.

e. Women are taught that they are second class citizens, put on the earth to bear children and serve men.

f. The church teaches its members to lie to themselves and others, while justifying that the actions are part of some "greater good".

3. Family Values

a. The church teaches that families are the most important thing in the universe, but what is actually promoted is an "eternal family" in a next life, not here and now.

b. Because of the above, Mormons are taught to shun people who do not share their beliefs, including other family members. A believing spouse is often counseled to divorce a non-believing one.

c. Parents are given many church jobs which cause them to spend a lot of time away from their own families.

d. Older members are encouraged to "use up" the remainder of their lives serving the church. Time and money a grandparent would normally spend on their children and grandchildren is squandered for the organization. As others have noted, this program should rightly be called "Where's Grandpa?".

The Mormon church draws near to "family values" with it lips, but its heart is far from them.

And there's a lot more where that came from. Still think the Mormon church is a good thing?
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I'm sure that there are probably some Mormons out there who do not follow quite to that extreme, however I think the basic doctrine can be harmful to people, depending on how rigidly they follow it...
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I was a Mormon aged 9-13 - I am 32 now. I may be able to answer questions. I have tried to keep up as best I can.
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I was just curious if there are any Mormons here, and what people here think of Mormon beliefs in general.

I had some bad experiences with one individual who is a Mormon, someone who I never wish to speak to again. For personal reasons, I shall not discuss that here.
I am open to hearing what people have to say here
All i can say I know is that Joseph Smith was the person who originated mormons. Apparently, god talked directly to him and Jo. Smith wrote an advanced translation of the bible. I dont believe that there is a religion that is right. but i do know that you shouldnt think negative of the whole organiztion(not saying that u r ) because of one individual who is in that org., it may not be condoned by the mormones.
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Mormons are a cult full of shit, I've had long discussions with them and they are hypocritic weirdos who even make Jehovahs Witnesses seem balanced!!
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All i can say I know is that Joseph Smith was the person who originated mormons. Apparently, god talked directly to him and Jo. Smith wrote an advanced translation of the bible. I dont believe that there is a religion that is right. but i do know that you shouldnt think negative of the whole organiztion(not saying that u r ) because of one individual who is in that org., it may not be condoned by the mormones.
Yes - the Mormons claim that God the Father talked directly to Joseph Smith. They claim he said, "This is my son, hear him." (referring to Jesus - from memory).

Yes Joseph altered some of the verses in the Bible - but not many, and that pales in comparison to what the Mormon's REALLY believe Smith did, which was obtain the golden plates and translate them into the Book of Mormon - a book that Mormons believe is more accurate than the Bible and is a second testament of Jesus Christ - his appearance in the Americas after his resurrection.

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Just realised that what I said might have sounded harsh so sorry for that. It was a personal opinion, if others beliefs dont interfere with others I have no problem with that. I dont see Mormons as blackmailers as such but I have noticed that a lot of people join them for financial benefits though.
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[quote=Andre;685271]Yes - the Mormons claim that God the Father talked directly to Joseph Smith. They claim he said, "This is my son, hear him." (referring to Jesus - from memory).

Yes Joseph altered some of the verses in the Bible - but not many,
its the bible, how many is too many? I dont believe in god, and i cant be too hard on joseph smith because he has something in common with ALL other faiths. they all believe that their holy writing are inspired by god, and that god used man to write them.
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Just realised that what I said might have sounded harsh so sorry for that. It was a personal opinion, if others beliefs dont interfere with others I have no problem with that. I dont see Mormons as blackmailers as such but I have noticed that a lot of people join them for financial benefits though.
I believe its crap too, but do try to show some respect. theyre sincere, and like all religion, how could you go against someone who promotes virtue, truth, being a good person etc.
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