Boomer

Discuss the game, your toons, whatever. Heres the place to do it.

Hans! I dont believe you!

Rogues get destroyed by warriors as long as the warrior knows what to do. Its fact buddy.

If I take away your stealth and your main hand, you're pretty much useless.

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Hans

Theres already a thread labeled w.o.w. or some crazy shit, but Ill take my knowledge here ^_^

Cowmu1.wmv - FileFront.com - just made that pvp video. warrior PoV




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As for rogue, like I said, wait and see. As for "knowing what to do with a warrior", Id watch your words, you arent even level 70 ^_^

If the rogue wanted to just destroy me, heres the fight

Rogue opens on me since he has 5/5 master of deception, so unless I want to do a random bloodrage (huge waste) and try to piercing howl him out, hell open on me with a cheap shot or garrote kite me. For the sake of a more believable easy warrior kill 1v1, hell cheap shot me with a premed on me.

4 second stun, 2 combo points+2 more from the premed puts him at 4 CPs, and a free energy tick during the stun. Hell have enough energy directly after the cheap shot to hemo once, putting him at 5 points (max). After cheap shot ends, Ill immediatly be kidney shotted (6 second stun). I cant blow my pvp trinket on this, or hell simply blind me, and re-start the fight but with combo points + me at a lower hp. After this stun, hell land 2 more hemos and then IMMEDIALY evasion. During this, Ill fear (if hes undead hell simply WotF or if hes a non-UD hell trinket this so I cannot intercept him), after the attempt of my fear/intercept, Ill probably have my first white swing dodged since Ill the rogue will be at roughly 85% dodge, giving me a free overpoewr. I have 2/2 imp overpowerd, so itll crit him for around 1700.

My first successful theory crafted attack, Id already be at around 35-40% at this point, and hed be around 90%. Wed continue to dance around,Id use warstomp and disarm to give myself a bit off his pressure, maybe get 2 moer overpowers off, if both crit, hell be sitting around 65% hp, me at 25%ish, but the its just another 5 point KS. During this Ill either die, or if I get lucky ill hit my battle master trinket (+1750 hp for 20 seconds), but he can simply vanish, and cheapshot me after this. Get off 2 white swings + hemo, non crit that is going to be roughly 1500 damage. Assuming Im still not dead Ill get ONE hit or ONE overpower, taking the rogue to ~40-45%, and Im dead. Game over.

thats actually only one wave of cooldowns, a rogue in theory could kill me with good crits/spam vanish/prep and kill me with 80% hp left. Also, even if he has no cooldowns, the odds of me winning are low from cheat death. (If I get a swing that will kill the rogue, it will do 0 damage, and for the next 3 seconds, all damage is reduced by 90%, giving him another swing timer of no damage and me having to wait to ms/ww him for another few seconds. After that ends, the rogue still has a 40% of midigating my next attack by dodge or parry.

At 60, rogues COULD kil warrors, but theyd have to do it very skillfully with bleed kites (garrote/rupture and running around s the warrior cant hit/intercept you, rince/repeat/win), but typically it was an easy fight.

Just hi 70 and duel a season 4 rogue haha.

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Hans

My pvp video(first link) has a few 3v3/2v2s where I fight a rogue, although I win all of them and its not a 1v1 obviously.

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Ashl33

TRADER!!!! thats my POST!!!

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Hans

haha please forgive me ^_^

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Ashl33

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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I love him <33 !

Hans

Thats the spirit.

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Zorak

Your playing the game at level 60 mate, so your have no idea.

Sorry, I got 70 warrior, and while we are one of the classes that stands a slightly better chance against rogues - we still get dicked on.

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Boomer

Ah I see. So just because Im a level 60, I dont have the ability to look up strategies on warrior vs rogue? I dont have the ability to search the interwebz and look at the conversations on boards about pvping? Dont have the ability to look up videos on youtube. I have absolutely and possitively no way to gather this information. Is that what you two are trying to tell me right now?

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Boomer

Basically I dont even see a point conversating about this. It seems like any point I would make would be quickly swatted down with the "you're not 70" response.

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Zorak

I can't make lasagna.

But it's ok! I read a recipe on the internet, so now I'm off to the italian restaurent to go tell the head chef how to cook it.

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Hey hey, My my, Rock and Roll can never die.

I can't trust any country that thought prohibition was a good idea

Boomer

Dont patronize me. You know what I meant. World of warcraft is a little different than lasagna. Im not trying to tell someone how to do something that obviously knows what they're doing. Im stating my opinion. You should make one of your own rather than bandwagoning. It shows character.

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Hans

Well dude, it really is a different game. Ive played thsi game for like 3 years...at 60 a warrior CAN beat a rogue 1v1 at equal gear/skill. At 70, its totally different.

Differences at 60 and 70
-Resilience (Redues chance to be crit/Reduces critical strike damage)
-HP (level 60 players have 3-5k, my warrior has 13.5k unbuffed hp)
-Weapons/gear/enchants (Gear scales totally differently)
-Level differences (level 61-70 have a larger stat gain than 11-60)
-Talent Trees (10 more points allows for a vast difference in abilities gained by each player)
-Trainabile abilities from 61-70 (intervene, spell reflection, commanding shout, change the way the game is played for all classes)

As for looking on youtube, I can make a video of me beating rogues on occasion, as I said, on a typical fight of equal gear/skill 9 times out of 10 the rogue will win.

If you want to read a proper forum, go to arenajunkies.com. Its a great site for pvp basis, you can even ask for other rogues and warriors opinions on the subject matter. I dont mean to "bash" you or "swat" you down, but you really dont even know what its like at 70, because you arent level 70. At 60 it is way more doable to beat a rogue than now, as I said, unless the rogue can bleed kite or spam cooldowns on you, you can win realitivily easily in equal/better gear.

If you want also, I can go out into durotar and duel some rogues and fraps it for you. If you feel like Im bad/clueless, then ignore it, but Im pretty sure Id lose most all the duels.

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Zorak

It's not coincidence that my opinion matches up to Hans' in this case.

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"...I will die alone, upside down, in a pub toilet."


Hey hey, My my, Rock and Roll can never die.

I can't trust any country that thought prohibition was a good idea

Boomer

I see you two down there. Cant wait to hear your responses...well, cant wait to hear Hans's. See Hans will actually give a valid explanation and teach you something while he's at it. Zorak on the other hand...well, just has a level 70.

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