Jesus Christ. Man or myth? - Page 2

Mase · 05-15-2008, 07:53 AM

Yes, theories are debatable. But not worth arguing about as if the theory were fact or fiction.

Peter Parka · 05-15-2008, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mase

Yes, theories are debatable. But not worth arguing about as if the theory were fact or fiction.

Maybe not to you which makes me wonder why you are in this thread? Others enjoy debating it so leave them to it eh?

Mase · 05-15-2008, 08:00 AM

You misunderstood my point. You can agree and disagree with a theory, and have reasons for that. But beleiving the theory is fact or fiction and arguing with that point of view kinda makes it out of hand, like a lot of atheists and christians do.

Peter Parka · 05-15-2008, 08:04 AM

Oh I agree that you can or cannot prove or disprove Jesus. The stuff people throw up to back up their belief is interesting though and thus we get an interesting debate.

groundpounder · 05-15-2008, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajun Fox

Idiot. I'm saying it's a proven fact that Jesus doesn't exist.

LOL!
*spits out bait*

fair enough. How so?

All Else Failed · 05-15-2008, 09:59 AM

There's no real evidence of his existence, but I think there was a well known rabbi named Jesus who had a cult formed around him and so on.

Pudding Time · 05-15-2008, 10:04 AM

oh god.. rabbi?

lol

All Else Failed · 05-15-2008, 10:10 AM

What?

Pudding Time · 05-15-2008, 10:27 AM

Nice theory..

GraceAbounds · 05-15-2008, 10:57 AM

2 of Jesus's followers wrote accounts of Christ's life. If their writings are not good enough for folks to believe than the writings regarding the life of Alexander the Great are not believable either and neither are a countless number of other historical writings.

More than a dozen secular authors/texts confirm many events and details that are written about in the New Testament. During a time in history where all historical and biographical writing was focused on the rich, on royalty, on military leaders, on famous people; it is miraculous that Jesus even got mentioned in secular writings; yet he did. Why you may ask? Because he did exist and he is that great.

Archaeology also confirms a huge number of details in the 4 gospels which were once also doubted before archaeological findings and confirmation came to be.

And there are countless other factual tidbits that could be mentioned, but I won't bother to go on.

People either believe or they don't. They either have it in their heart to seek Him or they don't. This post says enough for those that are truly seeking a relationship with the Lord to seek further with all their heart.

And for those that have no desire to seek, no amount of my writings would cause an ounce of fruitation to take place.

DaveM · 05-15-2008, 11:27 AM

read Holy Blood Holy Grail

there is plenty of evidence for the existence of Jesus, just not in the way the bible portrays him

Pudding Time · 05-15-2008, 11:32 AM

There's no proof.. Just like grace said, it's just like Alexander...

GraceAbounds · 05-15-2008, 11:35 AM

That's right. History is all a facet of our imaginations. And we'd do well to not learn from it. Woot. Party time!

FreeWorkVest · 05-15-2008, 11:38 AM

Jesus was Felipe Alou's brother. Played for the Giants, I believe

Pudding Time · 05-15-2008, 11:39 AM

Ok.. now you have gone loopy..

I'm just pointing out that there is no proof of him, alexander, moon landings, or big foot.. We have only heard of these from other people, and we pick and choose what we believe..

05-15-2008, 07:53 AM	#16
Mase 1924 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 3,412 Tokenz: 17,946	Re: Jesus Christ. Man or myth? Yes, theories are debatable. But not worth arguing about as if the theory were fact or fiction. __________________ R.I.P. Isaac Hayes. He did a good job as Chef from South Park, and he's made some pretty good music.

05-15-2008, 08:00 AM	#18
Mase 1924 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 3,412 Tokenz: 17,946	Re: Jesus Christ. Man or myth? You misunderstood my point. You can agree and disagree with a theory, and have reasons for that. But beleiving the theory is fact or fiction and arguing with that point of view kinda makes it out of hand, like a lot of atheists and christians do. __________________ R.I.P. Isaac Hayes. He did a good job as Chef from South Park, and he's made some pretty good music.

05-15-2008, 08:04 AM	#19
Peter Parka West Ham Till I Die!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Harlow, Essex, England Posts: 20,607 Tokenz: 70,163	Re: Jesus Christ. Man or myth? Oh I agree that you can or cannot prove or disprove Jesus. The stuff people throw up to back up their belief is interesting though and thus we get an interesting debate. __________________

05-15-2008, 09:59 AM	#21
All Else Failed I don't post here anymore Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6,430 Tokenz: 6,205	Re: Jesus Christ. Man or myth? There's no real evidence of his existence, but I think there was a well known rabbi named Jesus who had a cult formed around him and so on.

05-15-2008, 10:04 AM	#22
Pudding Time Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,217	Re: Jesus Christ. Man or myth? oh god.. rabbi? lol

05-15-2008, 10:10 AM	#23
All Else Failed I don't post here anymore Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6,430 Tokenz: 6,205	Re: Jesus Christ. Man or myth? What?

05-15-2008, 10:27 AM	#24
Pudding Time Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,217	Re: Jesus Christ. Man or myth? Nice theory..

05-15-2008, 10:57 AM	#25
GraceAbounds V.I.P User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,395 Tokenz: 1,327	Re: Jesus Christ. Man or myth? 2 of Jesus's followers wrote accounts of Christ's life. If their writings are not good enough for folks to believe than the writings regarding the life of Alexander the Great are not believable either and neither are a countless number of other historical writings. More than a dozen secular authors/texts confirm many events and details that are written about in the New Testament. During a time in history where all historical and biographical writing was focused on the rich, on royalty, on military leaders, on famous people; it is miraculous that Jesus even got mentioned in secular writings; yet he did. Why you may ask? Because he did exist and he is that great. Archaeology also confirms a huge number of details in the 4 gospels which were once also doubted before archaeological findings and confirmation came to be. And there are countless other factual tidbits that could be mentioned, but I won't bother to go on. People either believe or they don't. They either have it in their heart to seek Him or they don't. This post says enough for those that are truly seeking a relationship with the Lord to seek further with all their heart. And for those that have no desire to seek, no amount of my writings would cause an ounce of fruitation to take place. __________________ "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

05-15-2008, 11:27 AM	#26
DaveM I R DA MANGO PIRATE! YARR Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in my basement, making a suit of skin Posts: 1,811 Tokenz: 8,174	Re: Jesus Christ. Man or myth? read Holy Blood Holy Grail there is plenty of evidence for the existence of Jesus, just not in the way the bible portrays him __________________

05-15-2008, 11:32 AM	#27
Pudding Time Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,217	Re: Jesus Christ. Man or myth? There's no proof.. Just like grace said, it's just like Alexander...

05-15-2008, 11:35 AM	#28
GraceAbounds V.I.P User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,395 Tokenz: 1,327	Re: Jesus Christ. Man or myth? That's right. History is all a facet of our imaginations. And we'd do well to not learn from it. Woot. Party time! __________________ "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

05-15-2008, 11:38 AM	#29
FreeWorkVest Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Caught between the moon and New York City Posts: 1,605 Tokenz: 6,721	Re: Jesus Christ. Man or myth? Jesus was Felipe Alou's brother. Played for the Giants, I believe

05-15-2008, 11:39 AM	#30
Pudding Time Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,217	Re: Jesus Christ. Man or myth? Ok.. now you have gone loopy.. I'm just pointing out that there is no proof of him, alexander, moon landings, or big foot.. We have only heard of these from other people, and we pick and choose what we believe..

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