Peter Parka

So what car or brand of car do you hate the most? I fucking hate Volvos. The're nasty looking boxy cars driven by pensioners at 30 mph on big straight roads, holding everyone up and just being a pain in the arse, basically!

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SouthOfHeaven

I HATE pontiacs ( specifically the Grand Am) friggin piles of crap always breaking down or the ignition locking up

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Jersey

Mazda Miatas.. I want to just roll over them any time I see one!

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TheOriginalJames

I love Miatas. Fun ass lightweight lil RWD bastards. Throw a t3 turbo, suspension and tires on that fucker and you have a formidable little cornering machine.

I'm really not a fan of sunfires, cavaliers and cobalts.

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skyblue

any over priced gas guzzling 4 x 4 driven by a lunatic who thinks he rules the road and feels the need to tailgate anything in front of him at high speeds....or any gas guzzling 4 x 4 driven by a housewife whos sole purpose for having such a huge vehicle is to take the only spoilt child on the school run and to do the weekly shopping

and any bmw/volvo/audi driven by a company rep

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Sparkey Duck

Herbie.. I can't stand that fucker, he thinks he can go anywhere and believes that driving with his doors open is funny.. IT'S NOT!

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...and so i said to my Doctor, "you can keep your Somatopsychic depersonalisation theories thank you very much. I've had some pretty flipped out dreams where i'm anthropomorphizing into various aquatic life forms, but a diagnosis like that will serve only to encourage me!"

skyblue

and lets not forget this disgusting little french model

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BaggedSplash

Ford Pinto because its uglier than sin...

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I used to be BodyDroppedNikes...

you ever seen a Chevy with the butterfly doors?

COOL_BREEZE2

What the bloody hell is that?????

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Yeah, there always after my lucky charms. What? Why does every one always laugh when I say that. They are after me lucky charms. What?

groundpounder

why the hate, bagged?

The Ford Pinto was a subcompact car manufactured by the Ford Motor Company for the North American market, first introduced on September 11, 1970, and built through the 1980 model year. It had a similar car sold under the Lincoln-Mercury brand, in the Pinto's case, the Mercury Bobcat first appeared in Canada for 1974, and subsequently in the U.S. the following year.
The new Pinto was beaten to the market by the AMC Gremlin, which arrived on April Fool's Day in 1970 - six months before the small Ford. Like Pinto, which shared parts with the slightly larger Ford Maverick, the Gremlin shared parts with the AMC Hornet. In the new American subcompact car class, only the Chevrolet Vega was a truly brand-new design.
Although the previously introduced Ford Maverick (and similarly-sized AMC Hornet) was initially compared with the Volkswagen Beetle, it was still designed around a L6 or V8 motor, with an interior featuring two bench seats. The new Pinto, with its 4-cylinder engine and bucket seats, was aimed squarely at small imports such as the Beetle and Toyota Corolla. Although the Chevrolet Vega and AMC Gremlin would often win higher magazine ratings,[citation needed] the Pinto was the most successful of the U.S. designs. The Pinto was also the starting point for the downsized Mustang II pony car. Pintos were built in St. Thomas, Ontario; Edison, New Jersey; and in Richmond[1], California.
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• <LI class=toclevel-1>1 History <LI class=toclevel-1>2 Engines <LI class=toclevel-1>3 Safety problems <LI class=toclevel-1>4 Pinto Pangra <LI class=toclevel-1>5 See also <LI class=toclevel-1>6 References and footnotes
• 7 External links

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For many years, Ford sold many small models from its British line as captive imports, including the Ford Cortina which somewhat resembled a reduced Ford Falcon. The Pinto's design began in 1968 under the direction of Ford executive Lee Iacocca. The Pinto would be later complemented by the imported, but even smaller front wheel drive Ford Fiesta, and formally replaced by the more modern Escort, patterned after the technically advanced front-drive Volkswagen Rabbit, for the 1981 model year.
Compared with other imports, seating was very low to the floor. Styling somewhat resembled the larger Ford Maverick in grille and tail light themes, but had a smooth fastback profile. Body styles included a two-door coupé with a conventional trunk, a three-door hatchback called the Runabout, a two-door station wagon, and the Ford Pinto Cruising Wagon, produced from 1977 to 1980 and styled to resemble a small conversion van (very much the trend in the late 1970s) complete with a round "bubble window" in the side panels. There was even a top of the line Pinto Squire, which had faux wood sides like the flag ship Ford Country Squire. There were appearance packages, but never a factory performance package similar to the Cosworth Vega or the 304 V8 Gremlin X.
The car's design was conventional, with unibody construction, a longitudinally-mounted engine in front driving the rear wheels through either a manual or automatic transmission and live axle rear end. Suspension was by unequal length A-arms with coil springs at the front and the live axle rear was suspended on leaf springs. The rack and pinion steering had optional power assist, as did the brakes.
Road & Track faulted the suspension and standard drum brakes, calling the latter a "serious deficiency". But they praised the proven 1.6 L Kent engine, adapted from European Fords. The much larger 2300 found in arch-rival Chevrolet Vega was an innovative brand new design using an aluminum block and iron head. This new engine design suffered from serious reliability problems. Consumer Reports rated the 1971 Pinto below the Vega but above the Gremlin.
Though the cars were thoroughly forgotten for some time, the Pinto seems to be enjoying success as an amateur-level vintage racing car,[citation needed] owing to its light weight, rear-wheel drive (RWD) layout, willing and durable Ford of Europe engines, and good car and parts availability.

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Engines
Except for 1973 and 1980, the Pinto was available with two engines. The first was always the smallest and least powerful of the two and was the standard engine offered. The second was always a larger, more powerful engine available at an extra cost. For the first five years of production, only four cylinder inline engines were offered. As can be seen in the following breakout of available engines, Ford changed the power ratings almost every year.[2]
Of particular note is the introduction in 1974 of the 2.3 L (140 CID) OHC I4 engine. This engine would be updated and modified several times allowing it to remain in production into 1997. Among other Ford vehicles, a turbocharged version of this engine would later power the performance based Thunderbird Turbo Coupe, Mustang SVO, and the European-built Merkur XR4Ti.[2]

• 1971
  • 1.6 L (98 CID) Kent OHV I4 - 75 hp (56 kW) and 96 ft.lbf (130 Nm)
  • 2.0 L (122 CID) EAO SOHC I4 - 100 hp (74.5 kW)
• 1972
  • 1.6 L Kent - 54 hp (40 kW)
  • 2.0 L EAO - 86 hp (64 kW)
• 1973
  • 2.0 L EAO - 86 hp (64 kW)
• 1974
  • 2.0 L EAO - 86 hp (64 kW)
  • 2.3 L OHC - 90 hp (67 kW)
• 1975
  • 2.3 L OHC - 83 hp (62 kW)
  • 2.8 L (170 CID) Cologne V6 - 97 hp (72 kW)
• 1976
  • 2.3 L OHC - 92 hp (69 kW) and 121 ft.lbf (163 Nm)
  • 2.8 L Cologne - 103 hp (77 kW) and 149 ft.lbf (201 Nm)
• 1977
  • 2.3 L OHC - 89 hp (66 kW) and 120 ft.lbf (162 Nm)
  • 2.8 L Cologne - 93 hp (69 kW) and 140 ft.lbf (189 Nm)
• 1978
  • 2.3 L OHC - 88 hp (66 kW) and 118 ft.lbf (159 Nm)
  • 2.8 L Cologne - 90 hp (67 kW) and 143 ft.lbf (193 Nm)
• 1979
  • 2.3 L OHC - 88 hp (66 kW) and 118 ft.lbf (159 Nm)
  • 2.8 L Cologne - 102 hp (76 kW) and 138 ft.lbf (186 Nm)
• 1980
  • 2.3 L OHC - 88 hp (66 kW) and 119 ft.lbf (160 Nm)

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groundpounder

Safety problems
Through early production of the model, it became a focus of a major scandal when it was alleged that the car's design allowed its fuel tank to be easily damaged in the event of a rear-end collision which sometimes resulted in deadly fires and explosions. Critics argued that the vehicle's lack of a true rear bumper as well as any reinforcing structure between the rear panel and the tank, meant that in certain collisions, the tank would be thrust forward into the differential, which had a number of protruding bolts that could puncture the tank. This, and the fact that the doors could potentially jam during an accident (due to poor reinforcing) made the car a potential deathtrap.
Ford was aware of this design flaw but allegedly refused to pay what was characterized as the minimal expense of a redesign. Instead, it was argued, Ford decided it would be cheaper to pay off possible lawsuits for resulting deaths. Mother Jones magazine obtained the cost-benefit analysis that it said Ford had used to compare the cost of an $11 repair against the cost of paying off potential law suits, in what became known as the Ford Pinto Memo. The characterization of Ford's design decision as gross disregard for human lives in favor of profits led to major lawsuits, criminal charges, and a costly recall of all affected Pintos. While Ford was acquitted of criminal charges, it lost several million dollars and gained a reputation for manufacturing "the barbecue that seats four."[3]
The most famous Ford Pinto product liability case resulted in a judicial opinion that is a staple of remedies courses in American law schools. In Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Co., 119 Cal. App. 3d 757 (4th Dist. 1981) [1], the California Court of Appeal for the Fourth Appellate District reviewed Ford's conduct, and upheld compensatory damages of $2.5 million and punitive damages of $3.5 million against Ford. It also upheld the judge's reduction of the punitive damages from the jury's original verdict of $125 million. Of the two plaintiffs, one was killed in the collision that caused her Pinto to explode, and her passenger, 13-year old Richard Grimshaw, was badly burned and scarred for life. Arthur N. Hews was the attorney for Plaintiffs.[citation needed]
However, a 1991 law review paper by Gary Schwartz [2], argued that the case against the Pinto was less clear-cut than commonly supposed. Only 27 people ever died in Pinto fires. Given the Pinto's production figures (over 2 million built), this was no worse than typical for the time. Schwartz argued that the car was no more fire-prone than other cars of the time, that its fatality rates were lower than comparably sized imported automobiles, and that the supposed "smoking gun" document that plaintiffs claimed showed Ford's callousness in designing the Pinto was a document based on National Highway Traffic Safety Administration regulations about the value of a human life rather than a document used to design the Pinto.
Due to the alleged engineering, safety, and reliability problems, Forbes Magazine included the Pinto on its list of the worst cars of all time.

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groundpounder

Pinto Pangra

A Pinto Pangra. The same car is also visible in the background in the first picture in this article.


The Pinto Pangra is a modified sporting Pinto produced in limited numbers by a Ford dealer, Huntington Ford in Arcadia, California. Approximately 55 were sold during 1973 and (to a limited degree) 1974, and in addition the components were sold in kit form. A Pangra cost approximately $5,000.
The most visible modification was a slanted fiberglass nose with pop-up headlights. Internally, the stock 2 liter engine was fitted with an AK Miller turbocharger; a "Can-Am" suspension package with Koni dampers lowered the car and improved the handling; aluminum wheels with wider tires were fitted, as were Recaro seats, a revised dash with a new center console, full instrumentation, and a digital tachometer.

[edit] See also

• Ford Pinto engine - Used in many other cars as well
• AVE Mizar - A flying Pinto

[edit] References and footnotes

1. <LI id=cite_note-0>^ Lofty ambition / Developer revs up former Ford factory in Richmond for real live-work spaces <LI id=cite_note-catalog-1>^ a b Gunnell, John A. and Lenzke, James T. (1995). Standard Catalog of Ford Cars, 1903-1990. Krause Publications. ISBN 0-87341-140-4.
2. ^ Ford Pinto, 1972 Pinto | Conceptcarz.com - Pictures, Pricing, Information, Wallpaper, History 1972 Ford Pinto information

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Wikimedia Commons has media related to: Ford Pinto

• Ford Pinto at the Open Directory Project
• FordPinto.com
• Mother Jones magazine's 1977 expose on the Ford Pinto
• Pinto Page - year by year specifications and magazine articles.
• Ford Pinto used as a patrol car
• Ford Pinto at The Crittenden Automotive Library includes full 1973 brochure in JPG format

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groundpounder

No high speed chases here: Old Port Cove, the large marina and condominium facility north of West Palm Beach, employs the use of a Ford Pinto to patrol the premises, as shown in this 1974 photo. With its 1.6 and 2.0 litre engines, the Pinto wasn't very speedy to start with, but with its particularly expolosive rear gas tank, it was a gamble to ride in.

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