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| Minor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SE Maine
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Tokenz: 10,379 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Seriously, why? I consider myself an objectivist, so I need a reason. Mine is thus: If we take the Law of Identity in the way that Rand described it, then the universe, and existance, cannot have come out of nothing. Nothing is nothing, and it behaves in a like manner. It cannot produce everything. Therefore, there must have been a being to create something from nothing. Now, Rand said that having a conciousness which is concious of nothing is a contradiction that cannot exist. But so is nothing producing everything. And seeing as how man does not have an understanding of what is beyond this world, we can only associate God's mind with our conciousness, but I believe that they are only the closest we can come to understanding. So God is a sort of super-conciousness, above our understanding. Why am I a Christian? Because it's the most rational religion, in my opinion.
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| The OTz multi-quoter! Join Date: Jan 2007
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Tokenz: 9,467 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | This is a duplicate thread in same section. ![]() |
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| Still Part Of The Staff Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida
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Tokenz: 12,494 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Why do you believe what Rand said? |
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| Fuck is my favorite word! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Winslow, ME
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Tokenz: 30,023 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | You're an odd kid
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| Minor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SE Maine
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Tokenz: 10,379 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Yeah, I get that a lot. It's the most logical approach. In an objective reality, which we have proof of via our senses and mind, A=A.
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| I don't post here anymore Join Date: Apr 2007
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| Agent of Chaos Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gillespie,Illinois
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Tokenz: 42 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | This is why I love not caring about the existence of God...makes life easier.
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| V.I.P User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Tokenz: 3,909 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ... which God? Allan
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| I don't post here anymore Join Date: Apr 2007
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| Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Tokenz: 300 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Because some day he'll let me part the Ohio River like he let Moses part the Red Sea. ![]()
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| Banned Join Date: Dec 2007
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I'd like Rand to explain Ball Lightning with his logic. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | *sigh* It's unfortunate, and I need to do more research as to why I cannot answer this with validity. Just saying, "because I do," just doesn't seem good enough, or fair enough within a discussion. I'll get back to you. |
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| I don't post here anymore Join Date: Apr 2007
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Tokenz: 6,192 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Most people believe because they were raised to do so. |
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| Between darkness and wonder Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Darkness
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Tokenz: 11,362 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I believe in God because God's existance has been proven and backed up by science. In some religious books, there are evidence that can prove the existance of God. Darwin's theory of Evolution has been proven wrong by science. Dr. Albert Einstein proved that the Big Bang and Redshift Theories are false. Nothing supports Atheism except for fictitious beliefs.
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