Drug Testing In Schools

Mrs Behavin · 07-30-2007, 03:28 PM

Do you think there should be random drug testing in schools?

Boomer · 07-30-2007, 03:37 PM

I said no. Wut fun is high school without mushrooms and weed? Besides, I dont see them testing for alchohol which is just as much a problem.

CRZY72004 · 07-30-2007, 03:40 PM

if I would have been tested in HS I would still be in the 9th grade

dt3 · 07-30-2007, 03:42 PM

I said no. I think they should have it for athletics, but not the general school population.

Ready for this AEF?.....

I think that's infringing on their rights

For real, no sarcasm.

GraceAbounds · 07-30-2007, 03:57 PM

I think a consent form should be presented to be signed by the parents and the students at the beginning of the school year stating that they understand that there is random drug testing done at that school and they are agreeing to it being done. I think it would save a lot of lives (and I don't just mean life or death) and that it would also cut down on the violence in schools as well. Also, on top of whatever consequences for a positive drug test result, the students should have to pay for the cost of the test if they pop positive to help offset the cost of testing.

dt3 · 07-30-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GraceAbounds

I think a consent form should be presented to be signed by the parents and the students at the beginning of the school year stating that they understand that there is random drug testing done at that school and they are agreeing to it being done. I think it would save a lot of lives (and I don't just mean life or death) and that it would also cut down on the violence in schools as well. Also, on top of whatever consequences for a positive drug test result, the students should have to pay for the cost of the test if they pop positive to help offset the cost of testing.

What if they don't agree? You kick em out of school?

GraceAbounds · 07-30-2007, 04:01 PM

No, they can still go to school even if the parents don't sign the form.

If you want to make it mandatory for all I would imagine that the school would need to be an open enrollment school or a private school.

Peter Parka · 07-30-2007, 04:46 PM

No, thats out of order and a violation of human rights unless there is good reason to suspect the kid is doing drugs.

BreakfastSurreal · 07-30-2007, 04:50 PM

I say why not? Sure it is a violation of privacy but I think it serves a good purpose and schools can maybe help kids and offer drug counseling instead of sending them off to alternative schools where they send truly BAD kids. Kids who are on drugs need not be treated like criminals, they need to be helped.

BreakfastSurreal · 07-30-2007, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GraceAbounds

I think a consent form should be presented to be signed by the parents and the students at the beginning of the school year stating that they understand that there is random drug testing done at that school and they are agreeing to it being done. I think it would save a lot of lives (and I don't just mean life or death) and that it would also cut down on the violence in schools as well. Also, on top of whatever consequences for a positive drug test result, the students should have to pay for the cost of the test if they pop positive to help offset the cost of testing.

i disagree with students having to pay if the test is positive. You will get a LOT of false positives due to prescriptions, and other numerous factors. I also think there should be an investigation for every positive, I don't think wrongfully accusing will do anything to help.

Peter Parka · 07-30-2007, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakfastSurreal

I say why not? Sure it is a violation of privacy but I think it serves a good purpose and schools can maybe help kids and offer drug counseling instead of sending them off to alternative schools where they send truly BAD kids. Kids who are on drugs need not be treated like criminals, they need to be helped.

But if a kids not on drugs why does he need testing or councilling?

BreakfastSurreal · 07-30-2007, 04:57 PM

thats the point of a test. to see if he is or not! and if he isnt i dont think he would need any counseling either!

GraceAbounds · 07-30-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakfastSurreal

I say why not? Sure it is a violation of privacy but I think it serves a good purpose and schools can maybe help kids and offer drug counseling instead of sending them off to alternative schools where they send truly BAD kids. Kids who are on drugs need not be treated like criminals, they need to be helped.

I agree.

GraceAbounds · 07-30-2007, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakfastSurreal

i disagree with students having to pay if the test is positive. You will get a LOT of false positives due to prescriptions, and other numerous factors. I also think there should be an investigation for every positive, I don't think wrongfully accusing will do anything to help.

We have to be realistic. Our school systems already claim to not have enough funds, so they are not going to take this on without the funds to do so. I'm just trying to suggest a viable way to help afford this. Things cost money and that point can't be ignored. If we do not offset the cost then that means that all of our property taxes go up even more.

Peter Parka · 07-30-2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakfastSurreal

thats the point of a test. to see if he is or not! and if he isnt i dont think he would need any counseling either!

This is why I don't agree with random testing, sure if some kid is showing signs of a drug problem but why should they be tested if they arn't showing signs of a problem or being any trouble?

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07-30-2007, 03:28 PM	#1
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07-30-2007, 03:37 PM	#2
Boomer Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 13,946 Tokenz: 12,511	Re: Drug Testing In Schools I said no. Wut fun is high school without mushrooms and weed? Besides, I dont see them testing for alchohol which is just as much a problem. __________________

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CRZY72004 V.I.P User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 4,676 Tokenz: 994	Re: Drug Testing In Schools if I would have been tested in HS I would still be in the 9th grade

07-30-2007, 03:42 PM	#4
dt3 Semper Fi Staff Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 18,899 Tokenz: 2,150	Re: Drug Testing In Schools I said no. I think they should have it for athletics, but not the general school population. Ready for this AEF?..... I think that's infringing on their rights For real, no sarcasm. __________________ Charter Member of The Conservatives In Exile 11/5/2008

07-30-2007, 03:57 PM	#5
GraceAbounds V.I.P User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,324 Tokenz: 1,859	Re: Drug Testing In Schools I think a consent form should be presented to be signed by the parents and the students at the beginning of the school year stating that they understand that there is random drug testing done at that school and they are agreeing to it being done. I think it would save a lot of lives (and I don't just mean life or death) and that it would also cut down on the violence in schools as well. Also, on top of whatever consequences for a positive drug test result, the students should have to pay for the cost of the test if they pop positive to help offset the cost of testing. __________________ "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

07-30-2007, 04:01 PM	#7
GraceAbounds V.I.P User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,324 Tokenz: 1,859	Re: Drug Testing In Schools No, they can still go to school even if the parents don't sign the form. If you want to make it mandatory for all I would imagine that the school would need to be an open enrollment school or a private school. __________________ "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

07-30-2007, 04:46 PM	#8
Peter Parka King Of Cunts Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Harlow, Essex, England Posts: 23,206 Tokenz: 110,915	Re: Drug Testing In Schools No, thats out of order and a violation of human rights unless there is good reason to suspect the kid is doing drugs. __________________

07-30-2007, 04:50 PM	#9
BreakfastSurreal V.I.P Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: TEXAS YALL!!! Posts: 8,830 Tokenz: 15,947	Re: Drug Testing In Schools I say why not? Sure it is a violation of privacy but I think it serves a good purpose and schools can maybe help kids and offer drug counseling instead of sending them off to alternative schools where they send truly BAD kids. Kids who are on drugs need not be treated like criminals, they need to be helped. __________________

07-30-2007, 04:57 PM	#12
BreakfastSurreal V.I.P Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: TEXAS YALL!!! Posts: 8,830 Tokenz: 15,947	Re: Drug Testing In Schools thats the point of a test. to see if he is or not! and if he isnt i dont think he would need any counseling either! __________________

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