memento_mori

John 13 (NIV)
25He, (AI)leaning back thus on Jesus' bosom, said to Him, "Lord, who is it?"
26Jesus then answered, "That is the one for whom I shall dip the morsel and give it to him." So when He had dipped the morsel, He took and gave it to Judas, (AJ)the son of Simon Iscariot. 27After the morsel, (AK)Satan then (AL)entered into him. Therefore Jesus said to him, "What you do, do quickly."


During the Last Supper before Jesus' execution, the author(s) of the Gospel of John describes how the "beloved" disciple laid himself on Jesus' inner tunic -- his undergarment. See John 13:25 and 21:20. Was Jesus gay?




maybe jesus was gay

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Peter Parka

All that proves is that if you think it means Jesus is gay, you've got a dirty mind full of gay inuendos and are probably gay yourself!

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memento_mori

only for you, pete

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Peter Parka

Haha!

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icecuban

he was speaking to jews and gentiles alike, thats what made him a target of the jews, they did not want someone saying he was their king while trying to bring under the umbrella of "gods people". obviously they hated him for more then that, being poor and a king was not something they liked...etc....he was the ultimate rebel, something i think you can dig.
You a Nietzsche fan? Very smart, too much for his own, died crazy, nothing to hold onto. But in his "anti-christ" he does say one of the most truthful things ive ever heard about christianity. he says (one of only like three times he mentions jesus in that book actually) that christianity died on the cross....and i agree, to be the ultimate christian is to always be like christ, and no one is able to do that, if they are, its cause they are to old to be overcome by their physical urges anymore, i repect a young person who can overcome what others say is "natural". you'll recognize the next christian to come around, with a big fat smile on his/her face

BreakfastSurreal

agreed. smart woman, you are!

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raubin

You guys need to get out more, how the hell do you know all of this out of the bible. I thought Dott Cotton out of Eastenders was the only one that knew the bible inside out!

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alleycat

does it matter?

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GraceAbounds

I pray and read the Bible everyday. It brings me peace and fills me with joy. It helps me keep things in the proper perspective which helps me to interact with people in a much more loving and unselfish way.

Who's Dott Cotton?

All Else Failed

Idk, I think disapproving of it and letting them go to hell for it is worse than hate. Passiveness to let someone suffer for what you don't believe in is indirect hatred.

icecuban

u are assuming there is an eternal hell fire, forget that thought, never should have been brought to christianity. again, peoples way of wanting others to suffer. im sure he looks at all our wrongs, but never with hatred. im sure if jesus did hate, it was the intangables he hated, like hate itself. never the people, just the wrongs. as for gays....this is tricky. i dont know what he would say, perhaps ask if they loved each other, and if they did, then do they only look at each other in that way, and no other. and if they did, then they do more then most all married couples, which im sure would make him smile

All Else Failed

Jesus himself said that people will burn, so it's not like its anything new to Christianity.

icecuban

[quote=All Else Failed;277363]Jesus himself said that people will burn, so it's not like its anything new to Christianity.[

i know this, to explain what it is to face yourself, and have to change what is truely detramental to you or anyone around u, it takes a lot, more then any person we've seen (at least, to change it all). i may not have changed everything for the better, but i know when i first started, it burned like a mofo. willingly setting fire to a part of you that doesnt want to go because it enjoys the pleasure can be quite excruciating. i know i know, its all interpretation, but its the type of interpretation that can bring it all to fruitition

All Else Failed

[quote=icecuban;277487]No offense, but that interpretation is sort of contradictory to him describing hell as an actual place where weeping and gnashing of teeth will take place.

icecuban

[quote=All Else Failed;277655]but to say "this place", where is this place he speaks, and is it eternal?. some states of mind can feel like an eternity. there were never specific places stated, and when they would happen, if it was after the body was no longer moving.