Teaching Intelligent Design - Page 4

karma279 · 05-13-2005, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99

im christian, but not catholic. no offense to catholics, but why do they pray to the virgin mary? just b/c she gave birth to jesus doesnt make her worth worshiping to in my book. i would rather praise the person who took a stand for what is right and gave his life for my sins (in my faith)

there is always criticism on the whole birth scenario of jesus and if mary just pretended to be virgin... but what does all that matter? i look at jesus as a role model. he did amazing things such as turn away peer pressure, stand up for what is right, even if others think it is wrong. that is one of the lessons i've learned in life: "dont succumb to the corporate machine" dont do things just because everyone else is doing it too.. it isnt always right

i know i will never be able to turn away certain things that may seem appealing at the time, but if i learn from mistakes and try to not remake them, i will be a better person. and i will die in 70 years or so anyway so all the satisfaction i receive on earth in my life will be only temporary. complete and total satisfaction comes from a faith, so when you die, your mind and soul have a home awaiting them (at least that is what i truly believe)

Catholics do not pray to Mary as she were god. There are different types of Marian prayers in the Catholic religion... It's more of praying to the event and also praying to god in the way that Mary did. Mary is seen as more of a saint.... not a god-like creature.
I myself believe in Jesus Christ as a prophet... an enlightened individual. The teachings he spread were of love, compassion and living to one's utmost ability. I consider myself a Buddhist... but you can be a Buddhist and also be so much more. There is no pigeon-holing in my religion. There are many a teacher who consider themselves "Christian-Buddhists"... but personally... I just can't relate with what modern Christianity has become.

AtlanticBlue99 · 05-20-2005, 12:04 AM

i agree with what religion has become. people have exploited religion from its historical meanings and values to a modern, popular event for the uneducated bandwagon.

another thing i dont agree with is extremists of any kind. for example: muslim extremists waging a global jihad on christians? WTF... also some hardcore christians like the guy who bombed the abortion clinic....

i believe religion is an acceptance to thoughts, beliefs, values.. this all creates an enlightened individual who can make better decisions for all people, for the future as well.

it takes a dumb person to believe a religion because he was brought up that way... but it takes an ignorant person to deny religion and its impacts on society (both economically, and spiritually as well).

horseshoeing · 05-25-2005, 09:26 AM

All off this was to much for me to read, so I say teach both. Some of you guys may of come for a ape, but I didn't

I think that in high school they should teach religion just so kids will know what other people belive. What is so bad about that? School should teach all religions. What is passover? or how about Monks. Why do they hang out with guys? Are they gay? If they teach it in the schools, kids will learn it and know what other people do and why.

lemon · 05-25-2005, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by horseshoeing

All off this was to much for me to read, so I say teach both. Some of you guys may of come for a ape, but I didn't

I think that in high school they should teach religion just so kids will know what other people belive. What is so bad about that? School should teach all religions. What is passover? or how about Monks. Why do they hang out with guys? Are they gay? If they teach it in the schools, kids will learn it and know what other people do and why.

lol on the monks thing...

but if you teach the religions in school, then everyone will want to create a religion, and then everyone will want the one they just created to be taught in their school... which would allow for nothing to get done

....

horseshoeing · 05-25-2005, 11:42 AM

Teach them all

AtlanticBlue99 · 05-25-2005, 01:00 PM

or teach none of them. it is a touchy subject and the result will make some people happy- but you cant always please everyone. unless you kill the people that disagree with you... but thats what cuba is for

horseshoeing · 05-25-2005, 04:33 PM

You have to teach something.

lemon · 05-25-2005, 10:50 PM

no, you dont have to teach them about religious ideals... just teach them the positive possibility of inter-religous groups...

where they can hang out with each other and not kill each other...

tolerance... thats what they should teach...

just accept that they dont believe what you did...

AtlanticBlue99 · 05-25-2005, 11:05 PM

thats the smartest thing ive heard you say so far man... tolerance- it is the key to as prosperous and lively future

lemon · 05-25-2005, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99

thats the smartest thing ive heard you say so far man... tolerance- it is the key to as prosperous and lively future

are you complimenting me, or insulting?

AtlanticBlue99 · 05-25-2005, 11:20 PM

comliments all the way man- i totally agree with being able to tolerate people with differences whether they are political, religious, or personal... but if your friends cant tolerate those 3 categories and you bring up a conversation- they wont be your friends for long

lemon · 05-25-2005, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99

comliments all the way man- i totally agree with being able to tolerate people with differences whether they are political, religious, or personal... but if your friends cant tolerate those 3 categories and you bring up a conversation- they wont be your friends for long

true

horseshoeing · 05-27-2005, 10:02 AM

If you want people to tolerate each other, they must not about each other. Teach about each other in the schools!

AtlanticBlue99 · 05-27-2005, 10:44 AM

they do- psychology and sociology... getting things your way, bargaining... etc.. it is all mind games and outsmarting others with manipulating tactics. i dont like to take advantage of people not as smart as me, but if im buying something (my car) i can negotiate the hell out of it.

05-20-2005, 12:04 AM	#47
AtlanticBlue99 V.I.P User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Evans, Georgia Posts: 3,270 Tokenz: 450	RE: Teaching Intelligent Design i agree with what religion has become. people have exploited religion from its historical meanings and values to a modern, popular event for the uneducated bandwagon. another thing i dont agree with is extremists of any kind. for example: muslim extremists waging a global jihad on christians? WTF... also some hardcore christians like the guy who bombed the abortion clinic.... i believe religion is an acceptance to thoughts, beliefs, values.. this all creates an enlightened individual who can make better decisions for all people, for the future as well. it takes a dumb person to believe a religion because he was brought up that way... but it takes an ignorant person to deny religion and its impacts on society (both economically, and spiritually as well). __________________ "Smokey Mountains"

05-25-2005, 09:26 AM	#48
horseshoeing Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: GA Posts: 2,242 Tokenz: 482	RE: Teaching Intelligent Design All off this was to much for me to read, so I say teach both. Some of you guys may of come for a ape, but I didn't I think that in high school they should teach religion just so kids will know what other people belive. What is so bad about that? School should teach all religions. What is passover? or how about Monks. Why do they hang out with guys? Are they gay? If they teach it in the schools, kids will learn it and know what other people do and why.

05-25-2005, 11:42 AM	#50
horseshoeing Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: GA Posts: 2,242 Tokenz: 482	RE: Teaching Intelligent Design Teach them all

05-25-2005, 01:00 PM	#51
AtlanticBlue99 V.I.P User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Evans, Georgia Posts: 3,270 Tokenz: 450	RE: Teaching Intelligent Design or teach none of them. it is a touchy subject and the result will make some people happy- but you cant always please everyone. unless you kill the people that disagree with you... but thats what cuba is for __________________ "Smokey Mountains"

05-25-2005, 04:33 PM	#52
horseshoeing Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: GA Posts: 2,242 Tokenz: 482	RE: Teaching Intelligent Design You have to teach something.

05-25-2005, 10:50 PM	#53
lemon Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,514	RE: Teaching Intelligent Design no, you dont have to teach them about religious ideals... just teach them the positive possibility of inter-religous groups... where they can hang out with each other and not kill each other... tolerance... thats what they should teach... just accept that they dont believe what you did...

05-25-2005, 11:05 PM	#54
AtlanticBlue99 V.I.P User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Evans, Georgia Posts: 3,270 Tokenz: 450	RE: Teaching Intelligent Design thats the smartest thing ive heard you say so far man... tolerance- it is the key to as prosperous and lively future __________________ "Smokey Mountains"

05-25-2005, 11:20 PM	#56
AtlanticBlue99 V.I.P User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Evans, Georgia Posts: 3,270 Tokenz: 450	RE: Teaching Intelligent Design comliments all the way man- i totally agree with being able to tolerate people with differences whether they are political, religious, or personal... but if your friends cant tolerate those 3 categories and you bring up a conversation- they wont be your friends for long __________________ "Smokey Mountains"

05-27-2005, 10:02 AM	#58
horseshoeing Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: GA Posts: 2,242 Tokenz: 482	RE: Teaching Intelligent Design If you want people to tolerate each other, they must not about each other. Teach about each other in the schools!

05-27-2005, 10:44 AM	#59
AtlanticBlue99 V.I.P User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Evans, Georgia Posts: 3,270 Tokenz: 450	RE: Teaching Intelligent Design they do- psychology and sociology... getting things your way, bargaining... etc.. it is all mind games and outsmarting others with manipulating tactics. i dont like to take advantage of people not as smart as me, but if im buying something (my car) i can negotiate the hell out of it. __________________ "Smokey Mountains"

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